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    Just sharing my correspondences with Victor HQ in Taiwan

    They answered to my questions, and explained the reasoning and understanding of Victor's Response Indicator and its difference with the stiffness rate (as printed in their racquet's cone).














    Based on foregoing, I prepared some racquet's charts containing elaboration of Victor's Response Indicator with the Balance Point and Shaft's Stiffness



     











    Hope this help for choosing Victor's racquet that suit your personal style and gameplay






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    Translated Dong.....
    Gua sih bisa translated-nya tapi kok masih binggung ya maksud yang tersirat didalamnya Wkwkwk..........................

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    Tambah bingung
    Bisa sih translatenya, tapi penjelasannya kurang detail
    Belum terlihat hubungan antara F, S, dan segitiganya itu. Apakah ujung-ujung segitiga itu mewakili sumbu tertentu (misal speed, power, control) ?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azis View Post
    Tambah bingung
    Bisa sih translatenya, tapi penjelasannya kurang detail
    Belum terlihat hubungan antara F, S, dan segitiganya itu. Apakah ujung-ujung segitiga itu mewakili sumbu tertentu (misal speed, power, control) ?.
    Sorry, wrong language
    I just realized that this thread is in english only sub forum after hitting submit button
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    In late 2013, Victor reintroduced the new stiffness rating to the recently released new products, amongst others Jetspeed 8PS, Jetspeed 8ST, Meteor-X 80 (New Color), Meteor-X 90, Thruster K 7000S and Thruster K 9000

    The new stiffness rating replaces the former triangle model, and is in the form of horizontal bar, which I consider to be similar with the stiffness rating applied by Yonex in its Japan website.

    We have yet to learn how to understand this stiffness rating, and I expect that it would be further elaborated in the upcoming Victor Annual Catalog for Spring/Summer 2014.

    Please find below the examples of the new stiffness rating to be applied by Victor in 2014 onward.
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    Still confused

    Want to ask, stiffness spec at cone represent stiffness of shaft only? am i correct?

    Response indicator point is mixing among weight (gr), Balance Point , Frame Shape, Technique(i dont know what its mean) , and shaft stiffness (which represent at cone) .. am i correct?

    Please more explaination ..

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    Update 10 January 2014

    The new stiffness indicator rating introduced by Victor for its rackets :






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    Update 18 January 2014

    I just created simple summary for each rackets' Response Indicator, based on 2014 Victor Catalog.













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    maksudnya rating disitu gimana master? ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mowlogh View Post
    maksudnya rating disitu gimana master? ....
    bener maksudnya gim ya...???

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    Please move this thread to Indonesia Sub Thread please ..

    so we can understand what are you try to explain for ...

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    This new V's indicator ratings try to explain the stiffness of a racket, which is not merely based from the shaft's section.

    Based on foregoing explanations, Victor seems to elaborate the whole structure of a racket in determining the stiffness rating.

    Accordingly, a customer should rely on the stiffness indicator, which is inserted in the cone's section of a V's racket anymore. Albeit a customer should seek the stiffness based on this new V's indicator rating.

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    Thanks for the chart,really helpfull..
    What i want to ask is currently i used tk 8000 as my racket,i am quite interested in tk 9000.
    Based on the chart the difference only 1 level at the head heavy section,but the rating change quite a lot from 7/10 to 9/10...
    Could you give me advice if i change to tk 9000, do i need much effort to adapt with this racket again?
    Thanks before...

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    Updating this Thread


    VICTOR SUPER RACQUETS - DECEMBER 2014







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    VICTOR PRO RACQUETS - DECEMBER 2014







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    based on the chart, even lhi and js8ps had the same spec, but response both of 'em are different. How come...i don't get it

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    Quote Originally Posted by rizal.saja View Post
    based on the chart, even lhi and js8ps had the same spec, but response both of 'em are different. How come...i don't get it
    This may be due to the use of different materials of both rackets

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    kLo di liat2, makin bingung

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    nice sharing bro Sulistyomo
    jd sekarang indikator raket victor overall raket yah
    bukan hanya d frame dan shaft saja hehehe

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