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Old 21 Jun 2010, 11:52
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for me yes, 26lb is enough....higher or lower makes me suffer hihihihi but it depends on ur strenght, i'm weak player too and tend to control the shuttle than smash....
Zymax 67 or BG85.....both have nice repuls and control...btw we're OOT, wkwkwkwkkw u can open a new thread about the string and we'll survive from admin anger wkwkwkwkwk
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You can try ZM 67 or Li Ning AP 90 at 26 Lbs (electric machine), it more cheaper than NBG 98 and more longer durability (personal opinion).
ok thx for your advice, in arcsaber z slash website also stated that for power player is recommended to use BG80 and for control player to use NBG95....i think i'll try NGB95 first and then ZM67....

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completely different.....more similar to Arc10 with higher BP.....a nice all around racket
Could you be more specific ?. How about it's power, swing speed, defence, manouver, etc ?. I have arc8dx and really want to have a good comparation between Z and DX. From previous page, some post stated that Z have a better swing speed. So, why some other post stated that Z lacking in defence compared to other racket ?

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i mean that my problem was i dont have enough power (not a power player) hhe...
so do you think nbg 98 at 26 is already good enough? what string will you recommend for replacing ngb 98, bcoz its too pricey....
try nbg98 at 24lbs
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Is it Z slash ?

 


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Could you be more specific ?. How about it's power, swing speed, defence, manouver, etc ?. I have arc8dx and really want to have a good comparation between Z and DX. From previous page, some post stated that Z have a better swing speed. So, why some other post stated that Z lacking in defence compared to other racket ?
If i rated Z power at 9 point then DX should be at 8
and yes, Z have a better speed could be frame design (oval) factor it makes it faster than other arc brother
Speed is not always make u defense better, it helps u in maneuver.... but Z frame (oval) has a little sweetspot which is make u difficult to get especially when defense from fast and hard smash or maneuver to get tricky shot....Z has a very little sweetspot even more little than conventional oval racket like Carbonex....
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Is it Z slash ?
where? i cant see ur pic :)
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the picture doesn't show up, bro. pls check the link again :)

edit: keduluan bro issa
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If i rated Z power at 9 point then DX should be at 8
and yes, Z have a better speed could be frame design (oval) factor it makes it faster than other arc brother
Speed is not always make u defense better, it helps u in maneuver.... but Z frame (oval) has a little sweetspot which is make u difficult to get especially when defense from fast and hard smash or maneuver to get tricky shot....Z has a very little sweetspot even more little than conventional oval racket like Carbonex....
Wow, thats so small.


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where? i cant see ur pic :)
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where? i cant see ur pic :)
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the picture doesn't show up, bro. pls check the link again :)
Thats weird, the pic show up in my browser. But I just copy it to my photobucket and this is the new URL
 
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If i rated Z power at 9 point then DX should be at 8
and yes, Z have a better speed could be frame design (oval) factor it makes it faster than other arc brother
Speed is not always make u defense better, it helps u in maneuver.... but Z frame (oval) has a little sweetspot which is make u difficult to get especially when defense from fast and hard smash or maneuver to get tricky shot....Z has a very little sweetspot even more little than conventional oval racket like Carbonex....
Wow, thats so small. Have you tried to "tweak" the string (just like someone else did with the balance point) to solve that ?. I mean, have you tried to resolve those small sweetspot by altering the string pattern (make it more sparse / not too dense in the left side, right side, top side and bottom side) ?.
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Thats weird, the pic show up in my browser. But I just copy it to my photobucket and this is the new URL
 
yes, it's arc saber z
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Wow, thats so small. Have you tried to "tweak" the string (just like someone else did with the balance point) to solve that ?. I mean, have you tried to resolve those small sweetspot by altering the string pattern (make it more sparse / not too dense in the left side, right side, top side and bottom side) ?.
small sweetspot caused by the frame narrower than usual, and cannot be cheated by string pattern.... it's purely because narrower frame
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small sweetspot caused by the frame narrower than usual, and cannot be cheated by string pattern.... it's purely because narrower frame
I disagree with you
There is even a patent on string pattern. Sure, it can't enlarge the sweetspot but it will enhance the non sweet spot part. Even some stringer in Indonesia often ask this question "full atau modifikasi ?".
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Wow, thats so small. Have you tried to "tweak" the string (just like someone else did with the balance point) to solve that ?. I mean, have you tried to resolve those small sweetspot by altering the string pattern (make it more sparse / not too dense in the left side, right side, top side and bottom side) ?.
it's always amazed when we see the picture prof player bend the racket perfectly wkwkwkwkwk and yes surely it was Z

and for your question, it wasnt mine so i dont know the pattern......i just borrow it for 1 stroke session and 1 game.....after that i'll never touch Z again...hehehhehe. I know what u mean but i dont know the result, might be some of Z owner can do the tip and share in here? :)
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I disagree with you
There is even a patent on string pattern. Sure, it can't enlarge the sweetspot but it will enhance the non sweet spot part. Even some stringer in Indonesia often ask this question "full atau modifikasi ?".
as i mention before, it's narrower frame, you may miss hit... not miss the sweetspot, but really a miss hit
so whatever the string pattern or technique, you'll still miss hit and have frame hit.... hope u get what i meant:)
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as i mention before, it's narrower frame, you may miss hit... not miss the sweetspot, but really a miss hit
so whatever the string pattern or technique, you'll still miss hit and have frame hit.... hope u get what i meant:)
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i'm confuse ... is it good or not
good speed and big power but small sweet spot and thin shaft ...
so i think i better hold my breath and wait for the new revised version of the Z Slash
hopefully very soon and more perfect than previous model ...
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i'm confuse ... is it good or not
good speed and big power but small sweet spot and thin shaft ...
so i think i better hold my breath and wait for the new revised version of the Z Slash
hopefully very soon and more perfect than previous model ...
This racket is a good racket, but it may not suit for your play.
The raw power of this racket is amazing.
My self I don't hit much on the frame so far.
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I think it is suitable for me because i'm an offensive player ... i don't like long rally because it makes me out of breath like a fish out of water ...
afterall they named it after my favourite guitarist Slash (ex Guns N Roses)
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i'm confuse ... is it good or not
good speed and big power but small sweet spot and thin shaft ...
so i think i better hold my breath and wait for the new revised version of the Z Slash
hopefully very soon and more perfect than previous model ...
Is there any clue on the new feature of upcoming Z ?
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Is there any clue on the new feature of upcoming Z ?
maybe Taufik Hidayat Signature version is different ...?
at least the colour is different ...
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maybe Taufik Hidayat Signature version is different ...?
at least the colour is different ...
I'm less concerned about the colour, more interested in other areas : sweetspot :)
Heard from BC member that they (AT900LC, ARC100PG) indeed a bit different with the original version :)
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